We saw in the recent “The Jewish War on Instincts” that 5 weapons are used in the psychological war against The People. Subverting Instincts is one of them, detailed with examples in that essay.
We will examine each of the weapons in isolation throughout this series, always remembering that they operate together with synergistic and overlapping destructive effects. Here we must add a 6th weapon, known as Attention.
Comment on the Jewish War on Everything
I chose to introduce Attention next because of the inspiration that came to me after listening to John Friend and Tim Kelly discussing current news developments on this week’s Our Interesting Times titled: “John Friend on the Jewish War on Elon Musk and Us.” Use of the phrase “Jewish War” by both Tim and I so close in time may be a synchronicity, or perhaps Tim saw my earlier essay title and felt it appropriate for the title of his discussion with John. As we will see, it is ironic in the case of a “Jewish War” on Musk—but not on Us.
Here is the comment I was inspired to offer to Tim, John and their listeners:
“I've decided I've lost patience with the way we analyze media. First, we tend to believe it, in this case that Musk is in a real dispute with the ADL. FALSE! We should assume all media depictions we are shown are fake, a pack of lies, a fabricated theater meant to convey certain emotional influences and psychological operations through the drama. Second, we tend to laugh at its absurdity, point out its clownish quality, rave about how ridiculous and illogical and extreme it is. WRONG! If we can laugh at it we can live with it, and we cannot live with any of it. The absurdity and illogic is deliberate and intentional, part of the psy-op. Third, we link current developments in media with history, validating them, when the history itself is mostly fake as well. We validate media stories by taking them seriously. NO! We partially fail to appreciate from a higher plane the strategic uses of fake media dramas.
“All our mistakes pile atop the first one, believing the media narrative is real. In this case, we proceed as if Musk is really in a dispute with the ADL, that Musk is upset that the ADL has organized a boycott of advertisers that cost Musk $2B, that the ADL is really concerned about "hate speech" on Twitter/X, that other Jews really sat down with Musk to try and negotiate terms...
“NO! Awaken people! Musk is a Jew lover and a colluder and capitulator with Jewish power. $2B is a tax write-off for Musk, if it even was a real debit for X, which we should doubt. There is no dispute between Musk and ADL. They are cooperating together to produce this little fake drama for our attention, demoralization, perversion, fear, instinct subversion and confusion.
“These are 6 of the main tactics they apply to beat us psychologically into a state of hopeless apathy and subservience….
“This is our best approach now to any media story: Assume it is lies, evaluate which of the 6 tactics are prominent, expose the lies and present the truth, and build our morale, enthusiasm, drive and motivation. Grow our group will to move beyond their psy-war and conquer Reality through Truth.
“Here, Musk is cooperating with ADL and the rest of Jewish power to depict a fake conflict over ‘free speech,’ ‘antisemitism,’ ‘hate speech,’ and ‘censorship.’ This is really controlled opposition and limited hangout. They control the parameters of the conflict, restrict the range of Truth, focus attention to topics of their choosing and not ours, demoralize us with the absurdity of it and our powerlessness to change it, confuse us with shifting accounts and affiliations, install fears of mass surveillance and censorship, and subvert our instincts to detect lies, assess heroes, villains and victims, and perceive reality. So far the tactic of Perversion has not entered in, but we should expect it to. Or maybe it has subliminally.
“Let us look up from the flashing lights, the shouting voices, the chatter and blather, the numbers and names, the swirling symbols, the good guys and bad guys... Jews lie, and this drama between Musk and the ADL is one other scripted lie depiction they have prepared and presented to us for our toxic consumption.
“Spit it out. It's fake and its subversive. What is the truth here? Knowledge is power, and once we know, our power grows and we move toward victory.”
The Purpose of Propaganda
Before we examine Attention in detail, let us remember the great goal of propaganda:
”…the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control.”
-Interview with Theodore Dalrymple by Jamie Glazov, FrontPageMagazine.com, August 31, 2005
This quote begins the essay “US Neo-Commie Agit Prop,” and is an essential companion to our study here of psychological war weapons. I included this essay among my top 5 out of 170 on Taboo Truth: Best of Taboo Truth: Karl’s Picks
Revelation of the Method/Consent/Macabre Thrills
Michael Hoffman’s knowledge of the Revelation of the Method is crucial to understanding the psy-war we are resisting now. It is so essential that we will consider it at some length:
“The alchemical principle of the Revelation of the Method has as its chief component, a clown-like, grinning mockery of the victims as a show of power and macabre arrogance. When this is performed in a veiled manner, accompanied by certain occult signs and symbolic words and elicits no meaningful response of opposition or resistance from the targets, it is one of the most efficacious techniques of psychological warfare and mind-rape.
“This ceremonial nose-thumbing, this perverse jesting and clowning is taken to the highest level of intensity by the Truth or Consequences principle which ultimately hinges upon the issue of consent.
“…It is an ancient rule of both the moral and common law that silence connotes consent, and a lack of meaningful action constitute consent in the face of these crimes.
(The 33 A’s at the end of the computer-generated SARS-CoV-2 genome sequence is the strongest example I have of “clown-like, grinning mockery.” I have others in “Covid Evil: Satanic References in the Coronavirus Scamdemic.” - KH)
“They brag to us about what they've gotten away with and we're thrilled by it. That's our only significant response, that and the anticipation of the next thrill."
“Thus the old strategy of exposing the cryptocracy, when applied blindly in the belief that exposure in itself is a potent weapon against cryptocracy, is bankrupt. Exposure and publicity by themselves, without a broader understanding of the epistemology of the Hermetic-alchemical control process itself, is worse than useless, it actually plays into the hands of the conspirators.”
Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare by Michael Hoffman, 2001, p. 80
Twilight Language & Psy-Slavery
”…Twilight Language… is a departure from authentic apprehension and expression of verisimilitude, into a degraded burlesque of communication which repudiates the ontological search for knowledge of ourselves as images of the divine, within the natural world of wonder.
“Human beings have been partakers of this debased language which has been codified by the western secret societies… and further eroded by post-modern advertising, radio, “rock,” cinema, Internet and news media. Inside this psychic pressure cooker, true apprehension of Being and Creation is rendered unobtainable. As a consequence of this Intentional Processing, men and women are radically diminished—experiencing the reduction of their existence to the level of post-human consumers of imitation phenomena, rather than instauration (restoration after decay-AH) as imago Dei living the immanence of divine creation.
(…)
“Consumption of the knowledge and branding of Twilight Language (as opposed to the study and analysis of its function as neuro-linguistic programming), is an act of enthrallment, not liberation. Participants in The Process situate greater knowledge of Twilight Language in a continuum of thrilling jolts to their seriously impaired and dulled autonomic nervous systems, like narcotic addicts…”
Twilight Language by Michael Hoffman, 2021, ppg. 24-5
We must understand: In analyzing the corrupt degenerate expressions of the Power Cabal through its weekly news cycle, we participate in installing it into ourselves and our viewers, not freeing ourselves from it. It struck me with the force of insight when I listened to John and Tim recount and ridicule the latest “news,” that they were to some extent—not entirely—perpetuating and distributing the psychological weapons occult within that “news,” not exposing and disempowering it. Not to critique them too harshly— We all do it! I do it myself.
Hoffman says we do it for the addictive hit, a vicarious emotional thrill of macabre fascination with the spectacle the Cabal provides. And we anticipate the next one, never realizing we are participating and furthering the psychological weapons embedded in the content—even our own response to it.
As I said in my comment, thus the necessity to stop such an approach to analysis, and instead engage in a “study and analysis of its function as neuro-linguistic programming,” or as we are considering more broadly here, as weapons in a psychological war.
To be fully clear, Hoffman quotes the London Psychogeographical Assoc. Newsletter, no. 15, 1996:
”Realizing that (the occult conspiracy groups’) activities will sooner or later come to light, they structure their activities so that as conspiracy researchers unravel their activities, they will release information into the public consciousness in such a way that it mirrors the groups’ initiatory procedure. In this way, the more they are investigated, the more masses of people are psychologically processed by the very people who seek to expose them. The meme, or idea pattern, that constitutes the essential structure of the group is then successfully mimicked within the consciousness of those who speculate about it. Success can be measured precisely to the extent that the conspiracy has been exposed.”
Twilight Language, p. 341
We get it now. We who report on and analyze, ridicule and denounce the content the Cabal puts out, partly further its effects as psy-war weapons on ourselves and our viewers/listeners/readers—unless we also expose the psychological warfare goals, strategies and weapons inflicted upon us so that we may escape their influence and pursue Truth. We must improve this.
John’s interview with Tim is one good example among many. I saw it on Red Ice too yesterday morning. I think to some extent I and the host do it in our interviews. Not entirely however, and we are still having some good effects, if only to chronicle the history to inform our own near future and our children’s mid-future. That is why I called my book An Inquest Chronicle. Also we help to Awaken and alert others of the truth behind the spectacle, so that we might resist its effects together.
Still, we perpetuate and participate in the occult initiation into illusions, to some degree, even while we aim to burst the illusion and reveal Truth.
Attention
Here we will examine another of the psy-war weapons embedded in the evil clown content, that it may afflict us no more. When the main-stream corporate Jewish for-profit media presents us with stories, spectacles, scandals, dramas, conflicts and dazzlements, our focus is drawn to those circus productions, and we are not looking anywhere else. Most often, events of great significance are occurring, but our eyes and ears and even our hearts are fixated on the spectacle. Attention = distraction in the psy-war.
Which Witch Trial?
One clear example recurs to me. In 2022 a legal case occupied the flickering screens and chattering voices of the nation. A doomed clown actor given the name Johnny Depp was engaged in a divorce dispute with his alleged deranged sex symbol wife (whose name I can’t and don’t care to recall). As the “character” depictions emerged, some of the fine details were perverse, but that is another of the 6 weapons we will examine elsewhere.
All this squalid drama and sordid pathos—literally among actors—occupied the public mind as a distraction, an attention magnet (but also as a promotion of marital conflict), while a truly meaningful legal case portended. A Jewish Israeli super-spy, daughter of a previous Jewish Israeli super-spy media magnate billionaire ultra-hacker who most likely had been assassinated by the Israeli Mossad, was on trial. Her name is Ghislaine Maxwell, which again is not a real name nor was her father’s. Their real name is Hoch. Even the trial may not have been entirely real, at least in the sense that Ghislaine was only charged with aiding and abetting her accomplice, Jeffrey Epstein, to acquire and groom girls for Epstein’s perverted lust. Ghislaine’s (and Epstein’s) crimes were so much worse and so much more numerous than that, she should have been charged with crimes against humanity like (falsely) at Nuremberg, and horrific evil. The sentence for such crimes should be execution by burning at the stake, as is justice for Satanic witches who engage in Jewish Ritual Murder of innocent helpless children.
I will not be showing Depp, but searched for the most bedraggled harried image of the other witch to convey her depravity. This is the worst I could find, even though pictures of her suffering in prison should be available. Most showed her well-groomed (no pun) and smiling, and a couple in a red white and blue bikini. Many showed her enjoying life with Epstein, for instance seated behind him on a motorcycle. Smiling! She is most often called a “Socialite,” as Epstein was called a “financier.” She is never called a child-raping witch, a cruel sadist or vampire ghoul. This is character control in the psy-war. Attention on this image, not that.
The Depp trial flooded the public mind, leaving little room for and no inclination to look at the Ghislaine trial. It was nevertheless so momentous a trial given the previous media focus (controlled opposition & limited hangout) on Epstein that they could not completely ignore it and retain sufficient credibility. So some Jewish corporate media covered it such as CNN, NY times and NPR, in order to occupy the space to maintain narrative control, restrict the range and feature the perversion value (child rape is a favorite).
Almost any example today will serve the same analysis. The President (D or R) is himself an attention magnet and distraction, giving the illusion of power while the real power behind the throne, Jewish organized crime funders, inflict their will.
Thus we need our own news outlet that notices the dominant main stream stories, then researches and presents the real meaningful news behind which the main stream stories are the cover. We have such outlets partially already, such as Real News, True News, and Know More News (Info Wars is controlled opposition and limited hangout), but nothing devoted fully to this approach. We might call it Ur-News or Counter-News.
“Entertainment”
John and Tim’s discussion of Elon Musk used the words “astonishing,” “loves Jews,” “interesting,” “distasteful,” “we can’t talk about this subject,” “whole-of-government approach to combating anti-semitism,” “shut down,” “protected class,” “special protection,”Jewish paradise,“ “most privileged, most worshiped,” “positive attitude toward Jews,” “You better!" “How dare you not!” “pro-semitic,” “denounced as ‘anti-semite’,” “anti-semitic trope,” “dictate what people think and say,”…
This is interspersed with laughter, expressions of amazement, disgust, outrage, indignation. ”Entertainment” equates to emotional reaction to drama, and when we engage in this kind of dialogue we engage in Hoffman’s “acts of enthrallment, not liberation.” It “mirrors the groups’ (Jews) initiatory procedure.” Even learning, as I try to encourage in these essays, has entertainment value, since to learn is to gain survival capacities, which feels enjoyable, reassuring, and pleasing to us. Entertainment is emotion, even so-called “negative” emotion.
When we use their neuro-linguistic programming, their hypnotic trigger words and phrases, and their cult motifs, we help to install their psychological influence. In this case Attention fixates the unconscious mind, regardless that the purpose is ridicule, exposing lies, outrage and all the emotional entertainment we derive from giving it (The Jewish War on Elon Musk and Us) Attention. This is our macabre fascination, itself a hypnotic state that more deeply imprints the programming, and conveys it to our listeners.
Not to attribute this exclusively to John and Tim, I see it myself somewhat in my two recent interviews with Dennis at Inside The Eye Live and Rurik at Slavlands Chronicles. We still conveyed useful knowledge, but may have unknowingly distributed the psy-war weapons—in this case, Attention—as well. If so, we must also convey insights into the stage magic to defray its influence.
Hoffman: “Many of the people stewed in conspiracy theory suffer the effects of the mental contagion they imagine they are decoding. The Process ends when the nervous system becomes too anesthetized and stupefied to experience further stimulation.” (Twilight Language, p. 25) I do not believe any of us have fallen this far, and some aspects of our work is useful as exposition and chronicle, a counter-point to the dominant narratives and histories, but we must be careful of this downward trajectory. We must be sure to expose the psy-war strategies and weapons that accompany the “entertainment.” Keep our Care alive.
Cremation of Care
The Jewish Power Elite aka the World Controller Class call this burn-out state Cremation of Care. This is a state of exhausted empathy. The power to feel what another is feeling is overwhelmed by frequent repeated prolonged exposure to such horrific cruelty, torture and death of innocents that the capacity for empathy is rendered numb. Cremation of Care is the desired state for World Controllers, lest any spasm of empathy impair the enactment of their Plan for the Jew World Order. No one can endure any remnant of empathy when deliberately inflicting mass misery, slavery, despair and death. Imagine the feelings of those who force-imposed the vax injections on billions based on immense lies—unless they have cremated their care.
Cremation of Care is most fully attained by participating in the torture and murder oneself. However, witnessing such horror can also induce empathy overwhelm, if repeated often enough frequently enough. And our unconscious minds do not distinguish between witnessing such trauma in person (IRL) or through screens/speakers. Think of all the acts of brutal violence we witnessed as children watching cartoons on TV. Hollywood movies, commercial vignettes, comic books, novels, TV dramas, and especially news stories, which are supposed to be “real” but frequently are just as imaginary as the rest, all depict unspeakably violent acts, which accumulate to desensitize us to compassion and empathy, initiating us into the Cremation of Care.
It took frantic appeals to “racism” and a White cop named “Chauvin(ist)” to get people to re-animate their burned-out empathy and care about George Floyd. Yet we can see scenes of Antifa youth and black BLM simians in huge military boots kicking an old man lying on the sidewalk in the head, and our Cremation of Care remains, at least to the extent that world-wide riots do not ensue. Kyle Rittenhouse was another exception, since empathy remained—because it was strategically allowed, at least for half of the population (perhaps Divide is a 7th weapon).
What imprints most deeply and pervasively from these “entertainment” dramas is the most violently graphic and viscerally grotesque. Think on any one of these examples and we will immediately remember not a bit of dialogue, a pleasant sunset scene, the weather report, but the burst of blood, the stab of a knife, the kick to the head, the open wound, the sex act. We humans are made to remember such details as part of our survival instincts, and the World Controller Class knows it. Imprint enough of them, and we burn out our capacity to care.
Any “horror” movie presented as “entertainment” will do as example. So will “news” programming, especially in these technocratic times, when police body cam video, surveillance video, bystander cell phone video (those at the Floyd scene were plants), even self-made live stream video by the murderers themselves (Brenton Tarrant, fake, the black/mestizo youth team who ran a stolen car over an elderly bicyclist and celebrated it, real), all offer the traumatizing experience to our minds and memory, over time accumulating to cremate our ability to care. Certainly the two black/mestizo youth had to be in such a state to deliberately run a car over an elderly White man, and celebrate it. We get there even by watching.
This is why I am not providing as many links, pictures and videos in this essay. First we must establish the psy-war context that we may understand the meta-level to resist the influence.
So the Cabal provides. And so do we, who claim to oppose the Cabal by exposing it, yet partly only forward its influence to ourselves and our readers/listeners/viewers. Last week I watched No-Go Zone on Red Ice, and saw a raving black man pounce upon a White man who had tripped and fallen on the sidewalk, and plunge a knife into the White man’s body repeatedly, before stepping back, threatening the White young woman accompanying the White man, kick the White man in the head while he was down in a last expression of apparently senseless rage, hate and contempt, then hurl the bloodied knife against the brick wall and march off shouting. To Red Ice, the key point is that the White man was a BLM activist who advocated for blacks, ironically killed by one. To the World Controller Class, the key point is the traumatizing depiction of violence itself.
This written description engages your imagination to create the scene in your mind, thereby forwarding the influence the Cabal wants. Red Ice forwards it by reporting on it, and I do too by describing it to you in words. We participate, to some degree unable to intervene in the autonomic reactions and influences.
We must either prevent such influences from reaching us, replacing them with positive experiences, or develop strong defenses against their influence. The knowledge we are gaining here is one of those defenses. To develop a cognitive and awareness-based objectivity may be difficult for some, and impossible for others, but some of us must achieve it. We become vampire-hunters because we have found the vampire within our selves, and tamed it.
Attention Content Control
All this requires Attention. Attention does not only = distraction, it = imprinting. The World Controller Class seeks to dominate the content, making it ubiquitous—Pan-Omniscient—then force us to pay attention to it. Pay we do, spending down our empathy until we are less-than-human, devoid of the ability to care. Despair and apathy result, two of the slave states the Cabal is trying to induce in us. When we re-play the Cabal’s content, telling ourselves and others that we are analyzing it to deconstruct and denounce it, we are also re-imprinting it.
Magnification
Two sub-aspects of Attention make it more impactful: magnification and augmentation/enhancement. Quite obviously, media magnifies. If we see it on the screen, hear it in the speakers, it achieves a larger semblance of reality even than some elements In Real Life (using “IRL” trivializes and establishes a false dichotomy, as if OL has equal reality). The more it is repeated, and the more widely it is presented, the more it is artificially magnified, creating an illusion of scale. Headlines, news flashes, “breaking news,” “updates,” and installed gossip around the water cooler all magnify core messages and confer a false semblance of credibility. (Placing the word “magnification” on a separate line in bold Magnifies its meaning and import, as does using a grammatically incorrect Capitalization, or “quote marks.”)
Augmentation/Enhancement
Augmentation/Enhancement increases the memory imprint and emotional impact. The story acquires more dramatic, graphic, visceral and emotional elements. “Gas chambers” is one good example. The imagination engages and we experience a visceral first-hand inner depiction of suffocating in a dark room stuffed with other victims forced to breathe toxic fumes (Yes, I know, I am again perpetuating their hypnotic program with this description, but also exposing the technique). Repeated images of a spherical object with menacing spiked projections protruding, literally magnified perhaps many millions of times from the alleged original size, with accompanying verbal descriptions and ominous music, augments and enhances the sense of threat. A man unique in appearance and dress standing on a stage before immense crowds of people, shouting into a microphone with an intense expression on his face, shaking his fist, followed by columns of soldiers marching in a striking stiff-legged manner followed by huge war machines grinding forward on rattling treads, massive guns pointing outward (like spikes on a sphere) is one of our best examples. To display a picture of this man here would be to trigger the greatest hypnotic reaction and impose the strongest cult programming of all.
Music Magnifies, Augments and Enhances
The Jewish owned and operated music industry operates on these principles. It is intrinsic to human nature that music induces a hypnotic state that magnifies, augments and enhances any other meaning associated with the music. This is why religious practices of all kinds include music and singing, or at least chanting. Thus the lyrics (spoken words) associated with commercial music, including the human voice in a singing mode (unlike today’s “Rap” which is chanting) imprint a greater meaning into our minds when conveyed on the carrier waves of music. Music is emotional, and any words associated are thereby augmented in their meaning.
Which is why the Jewish music industry lyrics are overwhelming about broken relationships, love lost, alcohol and vehicles (country), casual animalistic sex, violence, criminality, drug abuse, degeneracy generally, and trauma. The pathos is visceral through the hypnotic effects of musical tones, rhythms, harmonies, melodies and variations (Rap strategically suppresses variation and range). Music sanctifies whatever meaning is inherent in the words. If that meaning is degrading to life and health, then that music sanctifies evil. That is the plan.
Porn-O-Graphy
From the original Greek pornographos, this means literally “writing about prostitutes.” It’s advertising with “spelling’ hex power over the mind! Presented as more “entertainment,” here we will briefly mention pornography as another attention magnet, designed to draw and hold our attention in an appeal to our primal instincts, through which damaging influences can be imprinted. Porn can be addictive, since it has the power to temporarily mind and mood alter legitimate pain (as do all these “entertainment” vectors), and so can almost completely consume a person’s attention. It is another way to effect Cremation of Care. We will look more at pornography in our future essay on the psy-war weapon known as Perversion, but here we will note that the “porn” industry (foreshortening the word to a jargon normalizes and familiarizes it) is overwhelmingly Jewish.
Conclusion - Be Thoughtful Where We Place Our Attention
Attention is a state of focus and fixation, and so can be a hypnotic state. When we are enticed to pay attention to one source, we are less able to pay attention to others. Thus it acts as a censorship measure. Attention allows the content and influence of the object of observation to reach into us through our senses, mostly sight and hearing when through screens and speakers. When the content is gruesome violence, injustice and horror, over time exposure can decrease and even eliminate our capacity to have and express empathy, known as the Cremation of Care. Attention is one of the 6 weapons in the Psychological War inflicted by the Jewish Power Elite, aka the World Controller Class or Cabal as we have called them here.
Even those of us who try to expose this psychological warfare aimed at us, so that we may resist its influence, sometimes unwittingly perpetuate and forward the influence by presenting the same content. To slightly paraphrase Hoffman:
”Thus the old strategy of exposing the (Cabal), when applied blindly in the belief that exposure in itself is a potent weapon against (the Cabal), is bankrupt. Exposure and publicity by themselves, without a broader understanding of the (goals, strategies and weapons of the Psychological Warfare) is worse than useless, it actually plays into the hands of the conspirators.”
I am committed to confronting my own subconscious motives for studying and exposing the Cabal’s plans and plots as a source of “entertainment,” and rooting out any macabre fascination with the material details. I invite us all to another meta-level of analysis that transforms our attention to awareness and wisdom, guiding strategy in our epic End-Times battle against the Judaic forces of evil encoded into their GAME Complex (government/academia/media/entertainment). Our defensive goal is to expose and deconstruct it in order to deflect its influence with our shield of knowledge, without allowing its vile influence to infect us or others in the process.
I hope you will agree this is a demanding task, similar to banishing demons, overcoming addiction, slaying vampires, or rescuing a drowning person. We must be aware not to become that which we oppose. We achieve this not only by opposing, but by integrating some of the power of our enemy while keeping it under our strict command, in service to the Good.
“I’d rather be whole than good.”
-C G Jung
Elon and the ADL were in from the beginning, was very clear to me this is scripted drama, just another distraction on top of the giant pile of distractions so people dont even dare touch that pile. "By way of deception, thou shalt do war" is not only the assumed mossad motto, but all jews and esp the ADL uses deception.
Truly one of the best analysis with excellent advice I’ve read in a good long time! You hit the nail on the head! We need to be reminded of these nuances over and over until we are good at the discernment!! It does get Tricky sometimes! I think one of the most disturbing aspects of listening to these podcasts is the fact that the people talking expose something they have known for years and laugh as they say it or laugh as a follow up after they say something that is definitely not funny. It’s very disturbing to an empathic person who still has compassion. I wish someone would tell them!