Hi, Karl! I posted a lengthy comment on here--after listening to the interview--about my brother and my's theories about how this group has moved around throughout history based on the Phoenecian purple. Was there something offensive about it?
Hmm. Maybe it never posted. I was in a hotel with bad internet. So, right about the time that Hillary and Bill showed up wearing purple after her loss to Trump, I was working on some pro-life article and I was researching baby sacrifice in ancient Carthage, there's a bunch of scholarly articles--some downplay it, some say it was common. Anyway, so my brother (a money guy who trained as a historian and has since cycled through from Repub. to Libertarian to one of us conspiracy ppl) and I started asking why Hillary and Bill were wearing purple. It couldn't be as simple as the BS line they say about red and blu combined. We knew it had to be a signal--maybe a color revolution, who knows. But then I--as an Art Historian--told my brother that the color purple came from the Phoenicians--they were famed for their purple sails made from snails (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrian_purple) and that maybe this was somehow related to that. Purple became the color of royalty--the Romans had a saying "born to the purple" and the Byzantines said "donning the purple' for someone who was going to be emperor. It could just be that the color dye was rare and expensive and thus associated with rich people. But my brother and I started putting two and two together (baby sacrifice and abortion and Hillary and Bill and purple) and thought maybe this is the same legacy of people--you know, doing the same rituals they've always done--just masked better for our current time. So, our theory was that the Phoenecians were the naval force that infiltrated all powerful empires--Rome, Byzantium, Spain/Italy (the popes), Holland, England, the US, and now were moving to China. Fits right in with your thesis. Anyway, if you read Miles Mathis you may have seen him adopt the name Phoenicians for Crypto-Jews in the last three years, but that is because my brother was exchanging emails with him and told him our theory. I swear that when I get to heaven all I want is for someone to confirm this!!! LOl. Any thoughts?
Thanks for sharing this. It is a well supported theory, and we have to see if other theories explain the B&H purple display as well. I really don't know any, except possibly the shifting of red states to blue with the migrant invasion, now known as purple states.
I have read that the indigo dye trade was a significant aspect of the world economy in past ages, along with sugar, rum, other drugs and slaves. Slaves were used to work indigo as they were with cotton, sugar, etc. So this herbal dye was for some reason significant. Purple = royalty seems established.
I've read that the Phoenicians were at least part Jewish. Jews ran a lot of the trading ships, the slave networks, auction blocks, accessories manufacture and supply (chains, whips, brands, etc.) banks and so on.
I've also read that Carthage was a debased evil empire of child sacrifice and other foul worship that the Romans eventually overwhelmed and destroyed, for the good of the region. To what extent Carthage was Jewish I do not know, but it seems to have had that quality.
Yes, if the Phoenicians were significantly Jewish, it fits in with my theory of the Polarities Plan. I haven't extended the timeline that far back yet, but it definitely could, including the shift from Babylon to Persia. It even looks like Jews were trying to shift power from Europe to the Arab Muslims, but eventually failed when Europeans finally expelled the Arabs from their lands, where Jews had worked to let them in. Thus the Inquisition.
I don't read MM extensively, only occasionally, so I haven't tracked any changes in his perspective over time.
You may not need to get to heaven to confirm your theory. I am sure you can find excellent sources on the Phoenicians that show they were at least part Jewish, but hid that fact, thus were crypto. If I remember, Asha Logos suggested this in one of his videos. Look up Our Suppressed History series for Phoenicians. Let us know what you find.
Didn't the Phoenician island explode in a huge volcano and vanish at some point? Punishment for evil Jewish sin? But they had excellent ships that traveled the world and some of them continued on. Who did they become today? Good to find out.
In Greek mythology, Prometheus and his brother Epimetheus were spared imprisonment in Tatarus because they hadn't fought the Titans in the war with the Olympians. Because of this, both were given the task of creating Man.
Prometheus shaped man out of clay and Athena breathed life into them. Prometheus had asked his brother Epimetheus to give all creatures of the Earth their specific qualities and traits, unfortunately when he came to men, he had run out and had nothing left.
Because of this, Prometheus decided to make men upright and give them fire. He loved man more than the Olympians because they had banished his family to Tartarus. Zeus commanded that men be made a specific way, so Prometheus tricked Zeus and Zeus took fire away from men because of this deceit.
Prometheus lit a torch from the Sun and gave fire to man permanently. Enraged that man had fire once again, Zeus had Hephaestus create Pandora, the first female, who possessed deceit, a lying tongue, and treachery. Zeus then gave Pandora a box, which she was commanded NOT to open, but to deliver to Epimetheus.
Prometheus warned Epimetheus not to accept gifts from Zeus and sent Pandora on her way but, Pandora's beauty was too overwhelming and Epimetheus allowed her to stay. Her desire to open the box was too much and she caved. When she did, all the evil in the world was released, except one which lay at the bottom of the box- Hope!
Zeus eventually had Prometheus punished for his transgressions by having him chained to a rock in the Caucasus Mountains, where Zeus's giant eagle would eat his liver, which would grow back again, and the process repeated over again.
Zeus gv Prometheus two ways out: 1) Tell Zeus who the mother of the child that would dethrone him was, 2) An immortal must volunteer to die for Prometheus, kill Zeus's eagle, and unchained him. Eventually, Chiron the Centaur agreed to die for him and, Heracles killed the eagle and unchained him.
Etymologically, Prometheus translates as "fore-thought" or "seeing the future." Epimetheus translates as "after-thought" or "seeing the past." In 'Mein Kampf,' there is the passage:
"Every manifestation of human culture, every product of art, science and technical skill, which we see before our eyes today, is almost exclusively the product of the Aryan creative power. This very fact fully justifies the conclusion that, it was the Aryan alone who founded a superior type of humanity; therefore, he represents the archetype of what we understand by the term- MAN! He is the Prometheus of mankind, from whose shining brow the divine spark of genius has at all times flashed forth, always kindling anew that fire which, in the form of knowledge illuminated the dark night by drawing aside the veil of mystery and thus showing man how to rise and become master over all the other beings on earth. Should he be forced to disappear, a profound darkness will descend on the earth; within a few thousand years human culture will vanish and the world become a desert" - Chapter 12 'Race and People'
Interesting. Some say Pandora had a vase. It's like Aladdin's lamp, with a genie in it. Genie means genetic potential. A spirit hidden within the form, a latent possibility that can be brought forth by training, inspiration, insight, motivation, etc.
The idea that the king can protect himself by finding out who will dethrone him and killing him as a baby, or killing the mother before birth, is an old one. Very Judaic. Passover is one expression.
Brutally anti-feminine to say the first woman, Pandora, was a liar, deceptive, disobedient, reckless and unwise. Blame the men, she was misunderstood and acted to protect herself in a world of violent insane covetous men.
What is with Centaurs? Maybe Scythians, bonded with their horses. Not immortal though, but rather god-like to others.
there was something about molten gold burning into Prometheus' brain in some of the myths. Not sure what that is about, except possibly mana, monatomic gold conferring mental powers.
Cruel tortures explicitly described is a kind of mind control. We most remember the visceral.
Much of Greek mythology speaks to the Greek imagination. The specific details of the stories arent so much important as the "essence" of what they are attempting to convey.
Nietzsche, who was trained in philology and taught numerous classes on Homer and Attic tragedy, said that the Greeks were "too foreign to us moderns, too labyrinthine." He always emphasized seeing the Greeks as they saw themselves, but didn't believe we has the strength for it.
Just below the surface of their myths, cults, and society, lay a harrowing darker side to their existence. Greek tragedy was born from that nocturnal side and gave form to it. Nietzsche discusses this extensively in his first published book from 1872 'The Birth Of Tragedy.'
I forgot who it was who said, "Those damn Greeks! They stole all our good ideas!" It's somewhat connected to A.N. Whitehead's:
"The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato"
Sidenote: Any new news on the possibility of Atwill debating you, or has he run for cover in his own way and, therefore, the possibility is now dead?
The Athenian Greeks were Aryans, so their mythology fit their racial nature. Unlike our Christian mythology. Except it is of course partially drawn from Greek mythology.
I lose track of it all at some point. I lose interest as well.
Rurik Skywalker loathes Plato and sees him as a kind if proto-Communist (my term) whose influence on our world today is largely negative.
No word from Atwill on any developments for a debate. I'm fine with that, the essays I wrote on that topic were good research for me and can stand as my position. His essay on Wordpress can stand as his. We've moved on.
Hi, Karl! I posted a lengthy comment on here--after listening to the interview--about my brother and my's theories about how this group has moved around throughout history based on the Phoenecian purple. Was there something offensive about it?
No. no offense. I'm not sure I saw it.
Phoenecian people?
Hmm. Maybe it never posted. I was in a hotel with bad internet. So, right about the time that Hillary and Bill showed up wearing purple after her loss to Trump, I was working on some pro-life article and I was researching baby sacrifice in ancient Carthage, there's a bunch of scholarly articles--some downplay it, some say it was common. Anyway, so my brother (a money guy who trained as a historian and has since cycled through from Repub. to Libertarian to one of us conspiracy ppl) and I started asking why Hillary and Bill were wearing purple. It couldn't be as simple as the BS line they say about red and blu combined. We knew it had to be a signal--maybe a color revolution, who knows. But then I--as an Art Historian--told my brother that the color purple came from the Phoenicians--they were famed for their purple sails made from snails (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrian_purple) and that maybe this was somehow related to that. Purple became the color of royalty--the Romans had a saying "born to the purple" and the Byzantines said "donning the purple' for someone who was going to be emperor. It could just be that the color dye was rare and expensive and thus associated with rich people. But my brother and I started putting two and two together (baby sacrifice and abortion and Hillary and Bill and purple) and thought maybe this is the same legacy of people--you know, doing the same rituals they've always done--just masked better for our current time. So, our theory was that the Phoenecians were the naval force that infiltrated all powerful empires--Rome, Byzantium, Spain/Italy (the popes), Holland, England, the US, and now were moving to China. Fits right in with your thesis. Anyway, if you read Miles Mathis you may have seen him adopt the name Phoenicians for Crypto-Jews in the last three years, but that is because my brother was exchanging emails with him and told him our theory. I swear that when I get to heaven all I want is for someone to confirm this!!! LOl. Any thoughts?
Thanks for sharing this. It is a well supported theory, and we have to see if other theories explain the B&H purple display as well. I really don't know any, except possibly the shifting of red states to blue with the migrant invasion, now known as purple states.
I have read that the indigo dye trade was a significant aspect of the world economy in past ages, along with sugar, rum, other drugs and slaves. Slaves were used to work indigo as they were with cotton, sugar, etc. So this herbal dye was for some reason significant. Purple = royalty seems established.
I've read that the Phoenicians were at least part Jewish. Jews ran a lot of the trading ships, the slave networks, auction blocks, accessories manufacture and supply (chains, whips, brands, etc.) banks and so on.
I've also read that Carthage was a debased evil empire of child sacrifice and other foul worship that the Romans eventually overwhelmed and destroyed, for the good of the region. To what extent Carthage was Jewish I do not know, but it seems to have had that quality.
Yes, if the Phoenicians were significantly Jewish, it fits in with my theory of the Polarities Plan. I haven't extended the timeline that far back yet, but it definitely could, including the shift from Babylon to Persia. It even looks like Jews were trying to shift power from Europe to the Arab Muslims, but eventually failed when Europeans finally expelled the Arabs from their lands, where Jews had worked to let them in. Thus the Inquisition.
I don't read MM extensively, only occasionally, so I haven't tracked any changes in his perspective over time.
You may not need to get to heaven to confirm your theory. I am sure you can find excellent sources on the Phoenicians that show they were at least part Jewish, but hid that fact, thus were crypto. If I remember, Asha Logos suggested this in one of his videos. Look up Our Suppressed History series for Phoenicians. Let us know what you find.
Didn't the Phoenician island explode in a huge volcano and vanish at some point? Punishment for evil Jewish sin? But they had excellent ships that traveled the world and some of them continued on. Who did they become today? Good to find out.
Really great. Thanks to you both.
In Greek mythology, Prometheus and his brother Epimetheus were spared imprisonment in Tatarus because they hadn't fought the Titans in the war with the Olympians. Because of this, both were given the task of creating Man.
Prometheus shaped man out of clay and Athena breathed life into them. Prometheus had asked his brother Epimetheus to give all creatures of the Earth their specific qualities and traits, unfortunately when he came to men, he had run out and had nothing left.
Because of this, Prometheus decided to make men upright and give them fire. He loved man more than the Olympians because they had banished his family to Tartarus. Zeus commanded that men be made a specific way, so Prometheus tricked Zeus and Zeus took fire away from men because of this deceit.
Prometheus lit a torch from the Sun and gave fire to man permanently. Enraged that man had fire once again, Zeus had Hephaestus create Pandora, the first female, who possessed deceit, a lying tongue, and treachery. Zeus then gave Pandora a box, which she was commanded NOT to open, but to deliver to Epimetheus.
Prometheus warned Epimetheus not to accept gifts from Zeus and sent Pandora on her way but, Pandora's beauty was too overwhelming and Epimetheus allowed her to stay. Her desire to open the box was too much and she caved. When she did, all the evil in the world was released, except one which lay at the bottom of the box- Hope!
Zeus eventually had Prometheus punished for his transgressions by having him chained to a rock in the Caucasus Mountains, where Zeus's giant eagle would eat his liver, which would grow back again, and the process repeated over again.
Zeus gv Prometheus two ways out: 1) Tell Zeus who the mother of the child that would dethrone him was, 2) An immortal must volunteer to die for Prometheus, kill Zeus's eagle, and unchained him. Eventually, Chiron the Centaur agreed to die for him and, Heracles killed the eagle and unchained him.
Etymologically, Prometheus translates as "fore-thought" or "seeing the future." Epimetheus translates as "after-thought" or "seeing the past." In 'Mein Kampf,' there is the passage:
"Every manifestation of human culture, every product of art, science and technical skill, which we see before our eyes today, is almost exclusively the product of the Aryan creative power. This very fact fully justifies the conclusion that, it was the Aryan alone who founded a superior type of humanity; therefore, he represents the archetype of what we understand by the term- MAN! He is the Prometheus of mankind, from whose shining brow the divine spark of genius has at all times flashed forth, always kindling anew that fire which, in the form of knowledge illuminated the dark night by drawing aside the veil of mystery and thus showing man how to rise and become master over all the other beings on earth. Should he be forced to disappear, a profound darkness will descend on the earth; within a few thousand years human culture will vanish and the world become a desert" - Chapter 12 'Race and People'
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Interesting. Some say Pandora had a vase. It's like Aladdin's lamp, with a genie in it. Genie means genetic potential. A spirit hidden within the form, a latent possibility that can be brought forth by training, inspiration, insight, motivation, etc.
The idea that the king can protect himself by finding out who will dethrone him and killing him as a baby, or killing the mother before birth, is an old one. Very Judaic. Passover is one expression.
Brutally anti-feminine to say the first woman, Pandora, was a liar, deceptive, disobedient, reckless and unwise. Blame the men, she was misunderstood and acted to protect herself in a world of violent insane covetous men.
What is with Centaurs? Maybe Scythians, bonded with their horses. Not immortal though, but rather god-like to others.
there was something about molten gold burning into Prometheus' brain in some of the myths. Not sure what that is about, except possibly mana, monatomic gold conferring mental powers.
Cruel tortures explicitly described is a kind of mind control. We most remember the visceral.
Much of Greek mythology speaks to the Greek imagination. The specific details of the stories arent so much important as the "essence" of what they are attempting to convey.
Nietzsche, who was trained in philology and taught numerous classes on Homer and Attic tragedy, said that the Greeks were "too foreign to us moderns, too labyrinthine." He always emphasized seeing the Greeks as they saw themselves, but didn't believe we has the strength for it.
Just below the surface of their myths, cults, and society, lay a harrowing darker side to their existence. Greek tragedy was born from that nocturnal side and gave form to it. Nietzsche discusses this extensively in his first published book from 1872 'The Birth Of Tragedy.'
I forgot who it was who said, "Those damn Greeks! They stole all our good ideas!" It's somewhat connected to A.N. Whitehead's:
"The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato"
Sidenote: Any new news on the possibility of Atwill debating you, or has he run for cover in his own way and, therefore, the possibility is now dead?
The Athenian Greeks were Aryans, so their mythology fit their racial nature. Unlike our Christian mythology. Except it is of course partially drawn from Greek mythology.
I lose track of it all at some point. I lose interest as well.
Rurik Skywalker loathes Plato and sees him as a kind if proto-Communist (my term) whose influence on our world today is largely negative.
No word from Atwill on any developments for a debate. I'm fine with that, the essays I wrote on that topic were good research for me and can stand as my position. His essay on Wordpress can stand as his. We've moved on.