Exactly what I have come to expect. Which is perfectly fine by me.
My interest here is partially due to the fact that you are open to discuss the issue without blindly culling simply by someone be described as a Christian. For as I have said many times, my belief is so different from most others, I am culled by them as fast or faster than I am by atheists (non-believers, agnostics, fence-sitters, whatever).
Secondly, my attraction to the NSDAP and Hitler's leadership. It is most difficult to appreciate those issues with most any Christian, due to the same type of brainwashing. My attraction is also related to the fact that my mother was born in 1942 Germany and raised during/after that war, with the full re-education experience. I have some tales to tell.
Thirdly (and not final) I appreciate your work ethic at this and your knowledge base. You have a slightly different style than others I follow, but I like it. I like when I can see people think, if that makes sense, and I can tell that you think through what you are about to say.
I appreciate that you have the same open and aware approach. Yes, I'm more tempted to cull those who categorically reject anyone simply because they are Christian. But even with them I apply the 10 Tactics and work toward coalition. If they are White, they have the potential to be us.
Your beliefs are different than most other Christians. And many of them say theirs are different from other Christians. Yours are not Gnostic, not Deist, not Aryan, not Christian Identity, certainly not Christian Zionist, not Orthodox, not Born Again... Or does one of these capture it? Perhaps no single label or name captures it.
I can imagine your difficulties in presenting the NSDAP to other Christians. In fact I know it myself. I have always started with the news that the Catholic Church recognized Hitler and the NSDAP as defenders of the faith against the violently atheist Communists, and some top clergy even referred to Hitler as a kind of messianic figure in that sense. Then the Vatical provided the so-called "rat lines" to help NSDAP leaders escape the end of the war and the clutches of the Communists.
Oh wow, I'm interested to know of your mother's experience of "denazification" and how it might have affected you. Such a horrible thing and one more atrocity Jews inflicted on the German people after the war.
Yes, I try to choose my words carefully and speak in full sentences. I work to avoid fillers such as "um" and "so" and "you know" (which is my go-to). I try to finish with finality. I notice that Jordan Peterson does this and shows it clearly. (I know, he's a Jew cuck now, but his psychology work is excellent and can be a big help to our young White men--and all Whites for that matter).
I once gave you a list of my study 'credentials' and books, what-not. I didn't mean it as to brag, but simply to point out that I spent a lot of time BY MYSELF without a huge influx of outside sources to influence my "theology". I would say well over a thousand hours. Many dollars. Bunches of debates.
And this is not to say that I am some sort of expert or theologian.
I once said that a descriptive of earlier people who believe similarly is now called Universalist (which has been given a negative connotation by everyone). One of the earliest 'church fathers' was Origen, most definitely universalist in theology.
Origen is often believed to be a Universalist,[173] who suggested that all people might eventually attain salvation,[174][25][173] but only after being purged of their sins through "divine fire".[175] This, of course, in line of Origen's allegorical interpretation, was not literal fire, but rather the inner anguish of knowing one's own sins.[174][175] Origen was also careful to maintain that universal salvation was merely a possibility and not a definitive doctrine.[174] Jerome quotes Origen as having allegedly written that "after aeons and the one restoration of all things, the state of Gabriel will be the same as that of the Devil, Paul's as that of Caiaphas, that of virgins as that of prostitutes."[173] However, Origen expressly states in his Letter to Friends in Alexandria that Satan and "those who are cast out of the kingdom of God" would be not included in the final salvation.[174][82]
I don't really subscribe to a label. But that may be closest.
I've know quite a few old Germans. Ex Wehrmacht. Spoke to my Oma who barely speaking English let me know that many lies were told. She knew of the Bolsheviks and what was done to stop the scourge. My mother, however, experienced the reeducation as a child. And speaking of zionist christians... she is one of the worst I ever knew. She thinks that Hitler was a jew and fooled everyone.
OK Universalist. Some of that Jerome stuff sounds Sabbatean.
Salvation through inner fire (or purging sins) is contrasted with what looks to be the Perfectibilist (Illuminati) and possibly the Aryanity approach, which is upliftment through will, practice, training, wisdom, purification. And eugenics.
I have always favored the later approach though have not fully succeeded. maybe both are needed. Maybe in some sense they are the same.
She thinks Hitler was a jew? Interesting that it was part of the denazification. Jews debase themselves with such self-defamation. It's funny, Jews teaching people to dislike Hitler because he was a Jew. He was the embodiment of the essential Aryan man.
I don't like labels, but that is likely the closest I have. Jerome and the Vulgate has given us much of the eternal torment erroneous translations.
Frankly, I took years of my life to try to prove what the preachers kept telling us about hell, torment, and the nature of God. I couldn't. I totally disproved it to myself and I understand how it came to be.
In reality there is no hell, no eternal torture or punishment, no 'Good Father' who consigns His own unsuspecting 'children' to endless torture in some sort of fire. If you think about it, that is what jews say happens to Jesus. So, maybe jews have infiltrated and started lies just like they do in every avenue of life.
Other Christians hate me because they need God to take care of the monsters sometime when we are all dead.
I don't have that angle. I want them taken care of right freaking now.
Excellent presentation both of you. I particularly liked your description of National Socialism at around 1:21:20 - especially "the NS man must be a pillar of his community in his conduct and character". Agree with you 100% about 'viruses'. I have bookmarked many other great highlights and will be watching a second time.
Thoroughly enjoyed this interaction.
What did you think of my "spiritual" and religious articulations?
Exactly what I have come to expect. Which is perfectly fine by me.
My interest here is partially due to the fact that you are open to discuss the issue without blindly culling simply by someone be described as a Christian. For as I have said many times, my belief is so different from most others, I am culled by them as fast or faster than I am by atheists (non-believers, agnostics, fence-sitters, whatever).
Secondly, my attraction to the NSDAP and Hitler's leadership. It is most difficult to appreciate those issues with most any Christian, due to the same type of brainwashing. My attraction is also related to the fact that my mother was born in 1942 Germany and raised during/after that war, with the full re-education experience. I have some tales to tell.
Thirdly (and not final) I appreciate your work ethic at this and your knowledge base. You have a slightly different style than others I follow, but I like it. I like when I can see people think, if that makes sense, and I can tell that you think through what you are about to say.
I appreciate that you have the same open and aware approach. Yes, I'm more tempted to cull those who categorically reject anyone simply because they are Christian. But even with them I apply the 10 Tactics and work toward coalition. If they are White, they have the potential to be us.
Your beliefs are different than most other Christians. And many of them say theirs are different from other Christians. Yours are not Gnostic, not Deist, not Aryan, not Christian Identity, certainly not Christian Zionist, not Orthodox, not Born Again... Or does one of these capture it? Perhaps no single label or name captures it.
I can imagine your difficulties in presenting the NSDAP to other Christians. In fact I know it myself. I have always started with the news that the Catholic Church recognized Hitler and the NSDAP as defenders of the faith against the violently atheist Communists, and some top clergy even referred to Hitler as a kind of messianic figure in that sense. Then the Vatical provided the so-called "rat lines" to help NSDAP leaders escape the end of the war and the clutches of the Communists.
Oh wow, I'm interested to know of your mother's experience of "denazification" and how it might have affected you. Such a horrible thing and one more atrocity Jews inflicted on the German people after the war.
Yes, I try to choose my words carefully and speak in full sentences. I work to avoid fillers such as "um" and "so" and "you know" (which is my go-to). I try to finish with finality. I notice that Jordan Peterson does this and shows it clearly. (I know, he's a Jew cuck now, but his psychology work is excellent and can be a big help to our young White men--and all Whites for that matter).
I once gave you a list of my study 'credentials' and books, what-not. I didn't mean it as to brag, but simply to point out that I spent a lot of time BY MYSELF without a huge influx of outside sources to influence my "theology". I would say well over a thousand hours. Many dollars. Bunches of debates.
And this is not to say that I am some sort of expert or theologian.
I once said that a descriptive of earlier people who believe similarly is now called Universalist (which has been given a negative connotation by everyone). One of the earliest 'church fathers' was Origen, most definitely universalist in theology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origen
Origen is often believed to be a Universalist,[173] who suggested that all people might eventually attain salvation,[174][25][173] but only after being purged of their sins through "divine fire".[175] This, of course, in line of Origen's allegorical interpretation, was not literal fire, but rather the inner anguish of knowing one's own sins.[174][175] Origen was also careful to maintain that universal salvation was merely a possibility and not a definitive doctrine.[174] Jerome quotes Origen as having allegedly written that "after aeons and the one restoration of all things, the state of Gabriel will be the same as that of the Devil, Paul's as that of Caiaphas, that of virgins as that of prostitutes."[173] However, Origen expressly states in his Letter to Friends in Alexandria that Satan and "those who are cast out of the kingdom of God" would be not included in the final salvation.[174][82]
I don't really subscribe to a label. But that may be closest.
I've know quite a few old Germans. Ex Wehrmacht. Spoke to my Oma who barely speaking English let me know that many lies were told. She knew of the Bolsheviks and what was done to stop the scourge. My mother, however, experienced the reeducation as a child. And speaking of zionist christians... she is one of the worst I ever knew. She thinks that Hitler was a jew and fooled everyone.
OK Universalist. Some of that Jerome stuff sounds Sabbatean.
Salvation through inner fire (or purging sins) is contrasted with what looks to be the Perfectibilist (Illuminati) and possibly the Aryanity approach, which is upliftment through will, practice, training, wisdom, purification. And eugenics.
I have always favored the later approach though have not fully succeeded. maybe both are needed. Maybe in some sense they are the same.
She thinks Hitler was a jew? Interesting that it was part of the denazification. Jews debase themselves with such self-defamation. It's funny, Jews teaching people to dislike Hitler because he was a Jew. He was the embodiment of the essential Aryan man.
I don't like labels, but that is likely the closest I have. Jerome and the Vulgate has given us much of the eternal torment erroneous translations.
Frankly, I took years of my life to try to prove what the preachers kept telling us about hell, torment, and the nature of God. I couldn't. I totally disproved it to myself and I understand how it came to be.
In reality there is no hell, no eternal torture or punishment, no 'Good Father' who consigns His own unsuspecting 'children' to endless torture in some sort of fire. If you think about it, that is what jews say happens to Jesus. So, maybe jews have infiltrated and started lies just like they do in every avenue of life.
Other Christians hate me because they need God to take care of the monsters sometime when we are all dead.
I don't have that angle. I want them taken care of right freaking now.
Excellent presentation both of you. I particularly liked your description of National Socialism at around 1:21:20 - especially "the NS man must be a pillar of his community in his conduct and character". Agree with you 100% about 'viruses'. I have bookmarked many other great highlights and will be watching a second time.
Thanks Julius! I knew he would ask and prepared my thoughts. NS applied was truly great, and everyone knew it.