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Pauline C's avatar

Very good. And lovely to put a face to the writing/voice, Karl.

Thank you both.

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saoirse's avatar

Very good interview! Zach/Logos is very well-rounded racially and sincere, especially for his age. Best of luck to him as he (hopefully) perseveres through the mine field he's about to walk through.

As an ardent supporter of National Socialism and seemingly on the fence regarding religion (his esoteric paleo-christian leanings aside) perhaps he can adopt the NSDAP pagan outlook in the future.

One thing I vehemently disagree with though is this: Being overly adamant about approaching this upcoming battle with unshakable morality is a fools errand. It's all well and good if your adversary has a conscience. The jews and their lackeys have not a trace and must be permanently removed by any means necessary. Think that's too radical? I look into the eyes of my children and grandchildren (all white children really) and think of the horrors they face should I choose to only fight the 'good fight' - which only exists in the minds of romantics who have never been in a fight. He says he's not having kids so he needs to go look into the eyes of the nearest white child and hopefully he reasseses his philosophy, for their future and that of our race.

All in all, glad to see intelligent, courageous young blood in the arena!

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Julius Skoolafish's avatar

Stunning interview and discussion. I left a number of comments on Zach's Odysee thread. Shared

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G Wooster's avatar

Mr Haemers, I enjoyed your interview with Logos Revealed immensely. You are doing fine work. I wish I could support you more by way of thanks. Thank you for brining this engaging chat and new protagonist to my attention, I greatly appreciate it and as you say, - to victory.

Keep up the great work Karl, your content is superb.

Very best,

Wooster

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Karl Haemers's avatar

Thank you for the encouragement Wooster. I aspire to high standards always, which is a challenge.

Would you give your assessment of the Atwill vs. Haemers series? I think some of our TT folk are not so taken with it, while I am highly motivated and deeply fascinated with it. This happens more often than I would think.

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G Wooster's avatar

Yes Sir,

I shall indeed. Give me some time to absorb the discussion as it’s very detailed and something I know about to a lesser extent, ergo need more time to absorb.

I’ll set out to assess this week.

All the best,

W

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Wire's avatar

Great interview, Zack is a very intelligent man who's not afraid of the truth. You both should understand that the truth is leading back to the bible, but you are still under the word game of the Jew. Semite and Aryan are the same people. The bible tells us that the Babylon (jew) money system is going to collapse and everyone will know who caused it. They will be wiped out man, woman and child as we were ordered to do 2520 years ago. There is not enough space here to give you the whole story but returning to the bible will save you a lot of time cutting branches and going straight to the root. The bible is White man's past, present , and future.

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Karl Haemers's avatar

Yes, I've seen you suggest this before. Can you provide that link you posted in our comments recently, which you said was the best source for more knowledge on these matters? I can't find it now.

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Wire's avatar

https://christogenea.org/CNT/christogenea-new-testament-introduction

https://emahiser.christogenea.org -scroll down to the bottom for studies

https://comparet.christogenea.org -Studies are on the right.

Same web side but different styles and backgrounds

https://www.e-sword.net/downloads.html - a bible with word meaning just click on KJV+

Any questions let me know.

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Karl Haemers's avatar

Who will be wiped out? Jews? But Aryans and Semites are the same people. That loses me. Shem was one of the sons of Noah, who began the Semites, the brown skinned Arab types. Japhetz was another son of Noah, who begat (eventually) Ashkenas, the White folks. So Semites and Aryans (White folks) are different.

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Wire's avatar

The 3 son of Noah were white. The flood was because they mixed their race until the only ones left were Noah and his pure white children. Every prophet trace their lineage to Adam including Jesus and his disciples. The flood was 'not' the whole planet. Adam in Hebrew means אָדַם ʼâdam, aw-dam'; to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy, red (ruddy).Able to blush. There are only 3 races all else (brown ppl) are mixed. Arab(erab) comes from the Hebrew meaning mixed. All of the Middle East including Egypt(Ham) was white. It's brown now because of race mixing. Babylon, Persia, Scythians, Israelites, Phoenician, Ethiopian, Assyrian, Saria, Lebanon, Mesopotamia, all brought down by race mixing. Only the Semitic Israelites(European) are left. Sodom and Gomora was white and destroyed because they were Homosexual and race mixers. The 10 clans of Cain became prominent because the obtained the DNA of white people. Jews are mixed race decadents of Cain who was the first race mixed child. The Aryan is an adopted name the original was the Persian who became Iran (Aryan) are also Semites before they mixed. See Wikipedia for Aryans. Indians obviously are not white. Nothing began in history until the white people arrived.

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Karl Haemers's avatar

So you are also saying Shem was also White like the rest of them, and it was only his descendants that got into race-mixing and became the Arabs, which means mixed. Is that right?

BTW how can homosexual race mix, since they can't breed?

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Yes all of the middle east and Egypt is predominately the ruins of white culture.

Gen 6:9  These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and ''perfect in his generations''', and Noah walked with God. All of Noah's children were white, Iran/Persian/Medes were Semites before mixing. They all lived together in Babylon. They scatters throughout the middle east their enemies were mainly the tribes of Cain,. as is our enemies today.

https://christogenea.org/podcasts/noahs-flood-was-not-world-wide-–-critical-review-sermon-bertrand-comparet

Sodom and Gomora was homosexual , race mixing and probably other deviant perversions. Jud 1:7  Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. 

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Karl Haemers's avatar

What about the Curse of Canaan? He was turned black in punishment, and his descendants became the Negroes. No?

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Wire's avatar

No, He was thrown out and mixed with non whites in the region. Curse of Canaan is a curse on the tribe of Canaanites. Gen 9:22  And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. 

Lev 20:11  And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.  Canaan was the result of incest.

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Karl Haemers's avatar

I'll be. So Ham lay with Noah's wife? That would be Ham's mother. And Canaan was born of Ham and Noah's wife. That would make Canaan Noah's half-son and grandson both. So they expelled Canaan and he mixed with the blacks nearby. But where did the blacks come from? I though everyone came from Noah's sons?

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Wire's avatar

You can forget most of what Churches say, they make up crap and then sell books. They are false prophets. They still don't teach about Ham, about the flood being a regional flood, and about the Jews. There is no place where you burn forever, or a Lucifer. There are Satan's (adversaries) that Yahweh created to teach you and cause you to sin.

Black and Asian are 20,000 years older than whites science says they could be as much 100,000 years old and they were hunter gathers that whole time. Science says white are less than 10,000 y.o. Which aligns with the bible and agriculture. He mixed with the descendants of Cain. Nobody mixes with blacks then, they were wild. There is no black skulls found in early ME only around Egypt. Cain mixed with Nomadic Asians. Taking black slaves was an Egyptian thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxO2K1nUM7g&t=95s

This guy is better than me on origins. https://www.youtube.com/@TruthVids/videos

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Karl Haemers's avatar

Would you accept someone calling you a Christian Identity? Do you know of Aryan Nations?

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Wire's avatar

Yes CI for lack of a better description. CI has so many people in it that don't know what they are talking about including flat earthers. Aryan Nations are of varied beliefs that started in the prisons. You never know what you are going to get with them. Some are real lowlife drug dealers ex cons, beware.

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Zon Brookes's avatar

Karl - Joe Atwill is heavily featured on this "Sacred Geometry" website (save 33% on reduced prices - now that's really taking the piss)....https://sacredgeometryinternational.com/gnosis-12-joe-atwill-returns-freemasonry-q-trump-on-trial/

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Karl Haemers's avatar

Yes I saw this but didn't open it. In the first interview 7 months ago Joe said he was available, so I see they had him back. What can anyone say about Q?

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Karl on my gab page I posted an image of page 851 of The Concise Oxford Dictionary (1982 edition) where the words "racialism" and "racism" are defined, to the Logos Revealed page. I've finally finished reading Covert Covid Culprits (at last) - sorry but I'd only give it 4 out of 10. Remember when I implied that Joe Atwill was a Freemason - this video is where I finally realised it (watch out for Joe's "hand gestures") : Gnosis 02: Joseph Atwill – The British Freemasonic Creation of Zionism, Theosophy and WW2....https://youtu.be/Nl9Lj97n_rk?si=jm6zxjyg--bWT3Ee

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Karl Haemers's avatar

What is the date of this video posting? Post covid for sure, since Atwill says so. But I don't see a date.

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came across the channel whilst reading "The Immortalty Key" by Brian C. Muraresku (which links back to John Lamb Lash's book "Not In His Image" - which you poo-pooed) It all revolves around the Gnostics and their deliberate misrepresentation as proto-Christians. Me thinks you should give JLL another chance; he believes the Gnostics were the real Pagans that "invented" civilisation and they were deliberately erased from history.

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Karl Haemers's avatar

Wait, Gnostics came Before Christians?! I thought they were a re-interpretation of it.

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I couldn't opine of JLL's book since I have not read it. I was revolted by JLL's appearance and behavior on an interview I watched with him, as he smoked drugs and praised Cary Mullis as "he must have taken some good acid." I can't credit drug-addict degenerates who openly normalize and promote drug abuse.

I'm sure the gnostic theory you cite could be credible. I remain engaged at this time in rebutting Atwill's thesis that Freemasons "Invented" the NSDAP. This is of utmost importance to me now.

So what of Atwill's hand gestures here? I see nothing to reveal Freemasonic gestures. Am I missing it?

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Civilization started over 7,500 years ago in Mesopotamian Chaldees. Gnosticism is a system of belief combining ideas derived from Greek philosophy, Oriental mysticism, and heretical Christianity. It stresses salvation through gnosis – an intuitive knowledge in spiritual matters. Christian Gnosticism was an attempt to separate Christianity from its past by infusing some of its concepts with pagan wisdom.

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Karl Haemers's avatar

In my understanding, a far ancient civilization flourished during the ice age, perhaps for over 50,000 years. The comet fragment impact event decimated that civilization from 12,835-21 BP. Survivors made it to the Tibetan mountains and the British Isles, and with remnants of their ancient knowledge and power began again to spread civilization again, coming down to what is now Mesopotamia bringing alloy metals, alphabetic writing, advanced medicine, agriculture and irrigation, and domesticated animals especially horses. They were the Scythians, the snake people for the scale armor they wore. They called themselves the Skolotoi, according to Asha Logos. The Core? The Foundation? The Essence? Something like that.

the Egyptian pyramids, Machu Piccu, Cuzco, Tiahuanacu, Monte Alban, Angkar Wat, and much more all existed as survivors of that far ancient civilization which may be called Atlantis, built by ancient Aryans.

Christianity itself is largely based on Greek and Roman mythology, which was itself based on the original Egyptian. Then as you say Euro-pagan nature mythology was overlaid, such as Oestara for Easter. Oestara was a Germanic fertility maiden goddess who loved the animals and they loved her. Rabbits and eggs were some of her fertility symbols. Charming and delightful. Too bad Christianity did not retain more of the divine feminine, but the omission was deliberate.

The secret societies especially the Illuminati promoted advancement through knowledge, practice, mind expansion, sexual magic and was the first to espouse science and technology over magic. This was fundamentally different from the surrender salvation doctrine of Christianity. It predominates today.

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It was supplemental to this podcast (which says "about a year ago") the JewTube channel name is interesting too -"Sacred Geometry International" ....https://player.fm/series/gnosis-3370117/gnosis-02-joseph-atwill-the-british-freemasonic-creation-of-zionism-theosophy-and-ww2

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Karl Haemers's avatar

I scanned through the sections where Atwill is featured, sitting and talking. He waves his right hand frequently, and at times puts his index finger against his head beside his forehead. Sometimes he scratches behind his ear with his left hand. None of these gestures appear to be Freemasonic signals. They appear to me to be normal affectations of speaking.

What do you see?

Thank you for sharing this video, I need to study it and continue to prepare my rebuttal of Atwill's thesis: Freemasons "Invented" the NSDAP. I simply cannot credit it. Too much was authentic and genuine.

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Joe Atwill makes the (((Sign of a Mark Master))) repeatedly whilst discussing Madame Blavatsky and The Chancellor. It's at timestamp 32:28 in this interview video....https://youtu.be/Nl9Lj97n_rk?si=UDonHvR6DHTu3a0a

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I have a screenshot but can't post it here. At 32:28 Atwill places his right index finger and thumb up against the side of his head near his temple. Is that the Sign of a mark Master? He actually does this or just his index finger multiple times throughout. It looks like a regular gesture someone might make when talking.

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I welcome your critique. What did you like about CCC and How could it be better?

I don't recall you mentioning your suspicions Atwill is a Freemason himself. The thought had never occurred to me. If so, another astonishment. He is incessant at exposing and denouncing Freemasonry. Do you think he could be Revelation of the Method? He seems rather wealthy, often traveling around the world, and he lives in an affluent community in Berkeley I think it is.

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I'd guess Atwill is like David Icke (if I'm correct that is obviously) in that, like Icke, he's a military intelligence/security services/secret society "asset" and his job is to control the truther narrative (for want of a better description) a bit like Adam Green of Know More News - who's credibility is greatly enhanced when "called out" for anti-semitism.

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Green is rarely called out, in my understanding. Perhaps that is telling. I really don't know. I know a man who knows Green well, and he seems to think Green is sincere.

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On the book, not wishing to be mean, but it was a bit disjointed and felt like it needed an editors touch (it tended to jump about a bit): realise that the list of weblink references was there to show you'd done your "research" but it was a bit redundant in my paper copy - perhaps a pdf version would justify their inclusion.

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All right, thank you for the critique. If you mean the topics of the chapters jumped about, I could agree. I do think the flow and focus within each chapter was good, since most of them were written as essays.

You gave a 4 out of 10. What of the 40% did you like?

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OK, so I think you might mean Abuse Productions. Or Atwill? Can you clarify please?

I'm not aware of NSDAP attacks on Catholics, except that so many of those executed for treason in the Night of the Long Knives in 1934 must have been Catholics, since so many in Germany as a whole were. Hitler was Catholic. Catholics ended up helping NSDAP members escape the end of the war and find sanctuary in S AM or Spain or elsewhere.

I do see some Catholic and other Christian organizations assisting with immigration. But overwhelmingly, it's Jews.

I'm aware that some if not many of the NS groups in the US today are infiltrated. I'm not sure what to say or do about that. All on its own it is disrupting and sows division through distrust.

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The second essay was about a Jewish organization as much as a Catholic one.

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LR said he is non-denominational, and non-traditional Christian. He could be closer to Christian Identity than anything. Negative on working with Mexicans. Definitely NOT working with Jews, working against Jews.

I do not appreciate this kind of spurious libel and unjust unsupported accusation. We need to be more thoughtful and careful with such accusations. We need careful vetting and analysis, not wild divisive claims that can sow distrust and doubt. Clarity is our goal.

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If you mean Zach, I'm not arguing with him. Did you watch/listen to the interview? Zach is pro-White and opposed to non-White immigration. He is also NS.

Your comment could be divisive and promoting distrust. From what I can see so far, Zach is legit and welcome.

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