I am continuing my debate with Joe Atwill over Who Created the NSDAP. We are trying to arrange a video or audio debate, and even trying to arrange a phone call to discuss the debate, but encountering problems. Currently we seem to be engaged in the undeclared informal debate by email exchange, with some of the debate points being discussed, such as the Protocols as a Theosophical strategy to bring the NSDAP to power, and the Eckart death bed quote. I am planning to share the email exchange here as part of our series “Who Created the NSDAP?”
Mr. Atwill has provided another source not presented in his original essay, “The Freemason Invention of the ‘Nazi’ Party” for me to review. It is by Eric Kurlander, “ It is “One Foot in Atlantis, One Foot in Tibet.” Kurlander is also the author of Hitler’s Monsters: A Supernatural History of the Third Reich. In our dysgenic society, this book is only fully available on archive to those with “print disabilities.” I have asked that we limit our debate to the content and sources in his original essay, but have agreed to consider other sources now if he will agree to consider more of mine.
The one essay I would counter-submit to Mr. Atwill I now cannot find. I believe it was posted to us in a comment on one of the 4 essays in this series, but I have reviewed the comment sections twice and cannot find it. I do not recall who among us submitted it either. I have looked in my bookmarks and history for this essay, but cannot find. I definitely opened it and kept it open as a tab for days as I gradually read through it. Finally I closed it when I started research on the Lincoln essay. This essay was about how the NSDAP formed an agency, the SD, which investigated and suppressed occult organizations in NS Germany, including Freemasonic lodges.
If anyone knows of this essay, please forward it in the comments here. Thank you. Or if anyone knows other sources that credibly chronicle the NSDAP’s opposition to Freemasonic lodges in Germany, and especially Theosophy, please offer them here. I am going to look at the sources for Dennis Wise’s documentary “The Secret Freemasonic victory of World War II.” We require written documents, not video however for this debate.
Karl, you might check with Carolyn Yeager as well since she has lots of information about Hitler etc.
“The more I debated with them the more familiar I became with their argumentative tactics. At the outset they counted upon the stupidity of their opponents, but when they got so entangled that they could not find a way out they played the trick of acting as innocent simpletons. Should they fail, in spite of their tricks of logic, they acted as if they could not understand the counter arguments and bolted away to another field of discussion. They would lay an essentially different nature form the original theme. They would lay down truisms and platitudes; and, if you accepted these, then they were applied to other problems and matters of an essentially different nature from the original theme. If you faced them with this point they would escape again, and you could not bring them to make any precise statement. Whenever one tried to get a firm grip on any of these apostles one’s hand grasped only jelly and slime which slipped through the fingers and combined again into a solid mass a moment afterwards. If your adversary felt forced to give in to your argument, on account of the observers present, and if you then thought that at last you had gained ground, a surprise was in store for you on the following day. The Jew would be utterly oblivious to what had happened the day before, and he would start once again by repeating his former absurdities, as if nothing had happened. Should you become indignant and remind him of yesterday’s defeat, he pretended astonishment and could not remember anything, except that on the previous day he had proved that his statements were correct.
Sometimes I was dumbfounded. I do not know what amazed me the more – the abundance of their verbiage or the artful way in which they dressed up their falsehoods.
- Adolf Hitler – Mein Kampf (James Murphy translation)